The term "ones" to describe anybody and everybody. "Honest hearted ones" "spiritually mature ones" "unrepentant ones" and on and on. I don't know anyone else who talks or writes like that.
Mrs. Fiorini
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Ironclaw needs our support.....
by alamb inhis mother passed last month and he is hurting.
i told him our little family here would support him through this.
he will be following this thread.
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Mrs. Fiorini
My condolences on your loss. Please take good care of yourself during this difficult time.
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Our JW Friend told by Elder "Satan is using a Pedophile to Break your Faith"
by flipper ini was given permission by a jw friend of my wife and me to post this experience.
she's anonymous and posts on the board.
she is married to a witness still but is fighting on behalf of children in her congregation to not be a next victim of a pedophile who attends her congregation.
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Mrs. Fiorini
If she isn't already doing it, she should document everything. Every conversation she has with the elders and CO about it, every conversation she has with the pedophile. She should keep extensive notes of eveything she sees, hears and all concerns she has, including how she feels about it. This information may come in handy later.
Bless her for doing this and best of luck to her!
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coheedandcambria
by isaacaustin incoheedandcambri.
care to share your story with us?
i would be interested to hear.
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Mrs. Fiorini
coheedandcambria,
Welcome to the board. I live in Lacey. If you would like to get together sometime, just PM me.
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Big Love does the Mormon Temple ceremony this Sunday
by FormerMormon inhttp://www.salamandersociety.com/temple/ (shows a pic from tv guide).
damn... i gotta get hbo.. i wonder which version they'll do.
the throat and intestine spilling oaths or the more sanitized ones they have been using since 1990. they can't show the whole endowment ceremony in one episode.
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Mrs. Fiorini
FormerMormon,
Thanks for all the info. I have never known quite what to think of the LDS church. I appreciate hearing from you.
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Vote:DO you think the WTBTS will end with a BANG or a WHIMPER
by superman inpersonally i think it will end with a whimper.
i think that they will always have members, but after the "system" continues and more and more people get discouraged, df'd, da'd, or fade after a long enough time they will slowly continue to consilidate halls (lose members) until it finally get so small they eventually go by the wayside or switch to something like e-meetings or web-meetings or once yearly conventions.
any takers??
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Mrs. Fiorini
That's a good question and one I've thought about over the years. I don't think it's going to end any time soon, but it could become a shadow of it's former self, at least in modern Western societies.
It seems to me the WT has to decide if it wants to be a mainstream, or even slightly odd fundamentalist religion, or remain a cult. Either way, it's going to have to start coming up with some new light and excuses pretty quick with 2014 on the horizon and no Armageddon in sight.
If it wants to mainstream, it might need to brace for a lot of defections. An earlier poster mentioned the Worldwide Church of God. They mainstreamed within a short amount of time, 10 or so years if I remember correctly. They ended up losing over half their members in the process. Of course, if the statistics are right, the WT loses over 60% of their membership anyway, so who knows how it would actually work out for them.
There's an interesting aspect to the WCG story. It turns out that there are some former members who want to go back to the old, nutty ideas about the end of the world, even predicting actual dates. They have advertized for former members, trying to pick up those who left the group. I don't know how successful they have been. I do find it interesting that there seems to be a market for this stuff among certain segments of the population.
If the WT wants to remain a cult, I think there are some natural limits for them. To try to maintain that kind of control over an organization and it's followers has to have its challenges. And while cults manage to attract some people, they will never become more than a fringe group that's easliy dismissed.
I would be surprised if they tried to pull a Jonestown. They are just too big and have been around too long to make that seem plausible to me. I also see no way in which that would be to their advantage, and at this stage of the game, everything the WT does is for its perceived advantage. Jonestown, and other similar situations, happen when there is a deranged leader that followers worship like a god. (I know what you're thinking, but the GB is still a group of mostly faceless men that the average JW wouldn't recognize if they passed on the street.) IMO if they were going to do something like that, they would have done it when Russell or Rutherford ran the show.
While the WT is similar to other odd groups and predatory religions, they also have their own unique situation. I guess we'll just have to watch and see what happens.
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Our JW Friend told by Elder "Satan is using a Pedophile to Break your Faith"
by flipper ini was given permission by a jw friend of my wife and me to post this experience.
she's anonymous and posts on the board.
she is married to a witness still but is fighting on behalf of children in her congregation to not be a next victim of a pedophile who attends her congregation.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Another thing that has been recommended by some experts is to approach the pedophile herself and let him know that she is watching what he is doing. The elders should do the same. This lets the pedophile know he could get caught.
I saw an interview with a pedophile once. He said he would try things to see what he could get away with. If no one said anything, he kept it up and went further.
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Are German JWs about to get hit with a tax bill?
by Mickey mouse inplease read the text at this link.. .
religion and state are separate, although historically a special partnership exists between the state and those religious communities that have the status of a "corporation under public law.
" if they fulfill certain requirements, including assurance of permanence and size of the organization, and do not demonstrate disloyalty to the state, religious organizations may request "public law corporation" (plc) status, which, among other things, entitles them to levy taxes on their members, which the state then collects as part of the overall taxes.
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Mrs. Fiorini
By the way, wouldn't some of the WT doctrines qualify as disloyalty to the state? They claim to represent "God's Kingdom" which will soon destroy all governments, including Germay's.
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Are German JWs about to get hit with a tax bill?
by Mickey mouse inplease read the text at this link.. .
religion and state are separate, although historically a special partnership exists between the state and those religious communities that have the status of a "corporation under public law.
" if they fulfill certain requirements, including assurance of permanence and size of the organization, and do not demonstrate disloyalty to the state, religious organizations may request "public law corporation" (plc) status, which, among other things, entitles them to levy taxes on their members, which the state then collects as part of the overall taxes.
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Mrs. Fiorini
This is amazing. Please explain more. Is this voluntary or mandatory?
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HAPPY SQUARE ROOT DAY!
by BurnTheShips inhappy square root day!
tuesday is square root day, a rare holiday that occurs when the day and the month are both the square root of the last two digits of the current year.
numerically, march 3, 2009, can be expressed as 3/3/09, or mathematically as 9 = 3, or 32 = 3 3 = 9.. .
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Mrs. Fiorini
Hope you're having a very happy birthday!!